Curse

BoxOfCox · Dec 02, 2009, 07:10 AM // 07:10

I think it is well known that having an autoclicker help with maxing the Drunkard title is a bannable offense. While I agree that it is technically a breach of the EULA, I'm interested in seeing if anyone has actually been banned solely for botting Drunkard. I myself know plenty of people who have botted the title and are still here, in fact, I haven't heard of a single person who actually had their accounts closed for this. Thoughts?

Just to be clear: I didn't create this thread intending to instigate debate on if/why botting drunkard is bannable, if/why it should be considered cheating, how flawed the drunkard title is, or all of that good stuff that's already been discussed a million times. I have accepted that Anet would be justified in banning players for botting the title, but I was simply wondering if anyone out there has actually been banned for botting drunkard, or knows someone who has. I think that is the key to finding out how serious business Anet actually is about all this.

Saph · Dec 02, 2009, 07:13 AM // 07:13

I don't know of anyone who has been banned using the autoclicker bot, but doesn't mean it hasn't or won't happen. I know I personally wouldn't risk it.

zwei2stein · Dec 02, 2009, 07:31 AM // 07:31

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Originally Posted by BoxOfCox

Thoughts?

There was some QQ about being banned for its use some time ago.

Most likely, drunkard was not the only thing banned guy botted thou ...

Bristlebane · Dec 02, 2009, 07:36 AM // 07:36

Usually the drinkbotters hide in secluded areas like in their guildhall or perhaps in their HoM or other explorable. No reports, no bans (it would seem).

Some people also use programmable keyboards which is legal to use by Anet, on which you can create and run your own macros. As long as it's not unattended which I suppose most drinkbotters are.

Personally I think the title is flawed as it's a genuin grind title. Would have been better they just removed the time limit and letting you click down a stack without delays.

bsoltan · Dec 02, 2009, 07:46 AM // 07:46

If you are that lazy that you can't write "banned" in your thread title I understand you being too lazy to do a few mouse clicks.

I don't cheat myself so I would never use one, anyway the risk is always there that one could get banned. As long as you don't complain if you get banned and you are happy at cheating your way to the title then I guess there is nothing else to discourage people.

Bob Slydell · Dec 02, 2009, 08:08 AM // 08:08

They have said before that being AFK while letting something "play" the game for you will get you banned, while using macros (i WOULD consider the auto clicker a macro) while you are there actually playing the game is fine. Its all in the AFK aspect that lines you up for a ban. The reason lots of people get away with it in lonely instances is most likely because anet looks in the more populated cities for these people and monitors them to determine if they are AFK yet somehow clicking the same beer stack every EXACT X-amount of seconds.

It's a 50/50 but it's up to you to decide if a title is worth the slight chance to lose your account.

Personally I'd drink the beers every minute you actually do play, but turn post-processing affects off. I know people who have racked up lots and lots of time in drunkard by simply doing it this way and it's a lot safer on your part as you won't even be putting yourself in the situation of a possible ban.

TL/DR Version(s): None, just suck it up and read my post, you might find it useful and I like to help people in some places that I can

(i go off on lots of tangents)

II Lucky Charm II · Dec 02, 2009, 08:14 AM // 08:14

even if you bot drunkard, Anet would not know unless other people report you. You can always make a script to randomize your mouse click interval. I doubt anything like this will get you banned. Anet is too busy figuring out a way to kill Guild wars 1

dr love · Dec 02, 2009, 08:28 AM // 08:28

i know lots of people that did it, none of them banned.

Silicon Based · Dec 02, 2009, 08:37 AM // 08:37

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Originally Posted by Chrisworld

Its all in the AFK aspect that lines you up for a ban.

Not true: 9 Rings game pleople are mostly AFK maxing lucky/unlucky. This practice has never banned anyone, as far as I know.

II Lucky Charm II · Dec 02, 2009, 08:41 AM // 08:41

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Originally Posted by Silicon Based

Not true: 9 Rings game pleople are mostly AFK maxing lucky/unlucky. This practice has never banned anyone, as far as I know.

AFK without using bots to gain title is not against the EULA. You are in no way manipulating the game. The game design allows for players to take advantage of gaining title while afk. Only thing that can get you banned is idiocy.

zwei2stein · Dec 02, 2009, 08:48 AM // 08:48

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Originally Posted by bsoltan

If you are that lazy that you can't write "banned" in your thread title I understand you being too lazy to do a few mouse clicks.

I don't cheat myself so I would never use one, anyway the risk is always there that one could get banned. As long as you don't complain if you get banned and you are happy at cheating your way to the title then I guess there is nothing else to discourage people.

I would not consider it cheating: the real work in title is getting enough booze for 10k minutes. Which is a lot gold and time spent farming or trading.

Having to click item stacks every thee minutes or every minute once real work is over seems kind of insulting to me. It certainly is abysmal design.

Bob Slydell · Dec 02, 2009, 09:11 AM // 09:11

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Originally Posted by Silicon Based

Not true: 9 Rings game pleople are mostly AFK maxing lucky/unlucky. This practice has never banned anyone, as far as I know.

I was talking about being AFK while using programs that play the game for you, not in general. What you quoted made sense in my post, but not in yours since it's all alone. Not sure if you misread or didn't read my entire post at all but it's ok. Just remember, don't quote something to make it look out of place and then try and justify it, it belongs with the post from which it came and this sorta thing pisses people off when you do that. Just a heads up, I'm not really mad, just letting you know its a good way to open yourself to abuse.

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

Having to click item stacks every thee minutes or every minute once real work is over seems kind of insulting to me. It certainly is abysmal design.

See this is where you guys need to stop and think a bit about the value of an accomplishment in the game. There is really no other way to make this easier than it already is. You drink a beer IRL, it takes time. Drink a beer in GW it takes a minute or two before it wears off and you drink more. If GW was IRL, your character would already be dead from liver failure (i know..its a game but. C'mon.) We can't tell anet to throw everything into a make-it-easy fantasy generator so things get even easier. Think about it...Already a waste of time and pointless work you have to to get a pointless waste of time virtual title (just for the fun, yes?) becomes less of a waste of time, but is even more incredibly pointless than it had been before, losing its already played out uniqueness as a title that everyone has, plus... how is it fun anymore and no one really even takes the time to stop and care about other people's titles today anyways.... it's just... meh people ask for too much in this game. Unless you get something mad crazy in gw2 from it... waste of time and even more of a waste to ask for it from anet for free basically. Sorry to go off on a tangent again but those are my thoughts as my eyelids get heavier..sorry if it didnt make sense (like anything i type does LOL) bout to go ot bed here really tired.. GG everyone

BoxOfCox · Dec 02, 2009, 09:26 AM // 09:26

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Originally Posted by bsoltan

I found out about the internet yesterday so I immediately call out OP for spelling "banned" "b&," but I am too lazy to read his actual post to observe that it has the Grammar Nazi stamp of approval, which would have made it obvious that the "b&" wasn't meant to be taken seriously. I proceed to describe a task which when done legitimately would take at least 20,000 mouse clicks as "a few mouse clicks."

I stroke my epeen as I reveal to Guru that I've never cheated, even though that has nothing to do with the topic. In order to make my post seem slightly relevant, I put on my captain obvious cape and mention that there is a risk of getting banned for using a bot. Finally, I make the assumption that the OP is intending to bot the drunkard title, and imply that he should somehow feel "unhappy" about achieving the title in such a way, little do I know that OP doesn't give a rat's ass and would feel the same whether he got the title by clicking, botting, or did not have the title at all.

This is what I saw when I read your post.

Hooded Doom · Dec 02, 2009, 09:42 AM // 09:42

lmao no it wont happen.
you wont get banned for bergen hot springs botting rofl.

im serious, theres something wrong with arena nets bot banning, i went to bergen to watch the bots reported a few and decided to do an experiment.

i added the name of a bot to friends list (Lan Ccc) and wanted to see how long it would take from a report and a post on bot watch (gaile gray's page). The bot has not been offline when i have been online (multiple hours a day) in 3-4 weeks now.

thats 24hours of farming x 21-28 days + more time before i added it and more time while a-net doesnt ban.

so in short, i doubt drunkard botting is dangerous to ur account

Scary · Dec 02, 2009, 10:09 AM // 10:09

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Originally Posted by zwei2stein

I would not consider it cheating: the real work in title is getting enough booze for 10k minutes. Which is a lot gold and time spent farming or trading.

Having to click item stacks every thee minutes or every minute once real work is over seems kind of insulting to me. It certainly is abysmal design.

I Totally agree with the above.
So stupid. they should give a rare mini to the people who designed the drunkard macro.
Having a title like that one is a real game killer, they should of made it as the sweet tooth tilte, with points no stupid minutes.

DragonRogue · Dec 02, 2009, 10:12 AM // 10:12

I was under the assumption that anet had already stated that an auto clicker was not considered a bot and had already stated that they were allowed, such as gaile grey had stated about texmods. However i have been unable to find where i read that now. I have not heard of anyone being banned for this, and i know many who have used them with no issues. However, i think its time that Regina make a formal statement on this topic. Put this discussion to bed.

prey monkie · Dec 02, 2009, 11:10 AM // 11:10

know a lot of people who maxed drunkard i think a lot of people used an auto clicker. i dont c the point of it u can easily max drunkard while playing the game itself. auto clicker is defintly handy for maxing party title or opening ToT bags. tbh i dont c whats wrong with it

EPO Bot · Dec 02, 2009, 11:12 AM // 11:12

I tend to build drunkard wile fueling drunken master/feel no pain.

Gun Pierson · Dec 02, 2009, 12:13 PM // 12:13

Why do you need a bot clicker when the zone trick still works in some places? You buy 3334 booze items that give 3 points and you zone for like 2 days. That's how I did it.

zwei2stein · Dec 02, 2009, 12:16 PM // 12:16

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Originally Posted by Gun Pierson

Why do you need a bot clicker when the zone trick still works in some places? You buy 3334 booze items that give 3 points and you zone for like 2 days. That's how I did it.

It still works? Curious